会议时间:2013年4月27日

会议地点:华彬费尔蒙酒店

会议主题:城市文化:城镇化的灵魂

《文化纵横》杂志社、《城市发展研究》杂志社 主办   


杨平:今天这个会议是城镇化进程中的城市文化问题研讨会,这个研讨会是由我们文化纵横杂志社和城市发展研究杂志社共同举办的。我叫杨平,是文化纵横的社长兼总编。欢迎各位参加我们今天以城市文化为主题的研讨会。首先欢迎史善新副理事长致辞。

史善新:各位上午好,城市作为人类文明发展进步的产物,有着自身的发展规律需要探讨。中国城市科学研究会作为以城市为研究对象、多学科交叉为特色的学术团体,其宗旨是为适应我国城镇化和城市建设发展的需要,组织并推动对未来城市发展规律和城市社会经济文化环境和城市规划建设管理中的重大问题进行综合性研究,繁荣和发展城市科学理论,促进城市科学的普及推广,促进城市科学研究科技人才的成长提高,促进城市的社会经济和环境的协调发展。中国城市科学研究会第五次代表大会确立了社科行业综合参与、上下联动、中外交流、知行合一的工作方针,我们贯彻落实科学发展观,就要把探索规律与解决问题紧密结合起来,致力于组织城市科学工作者,研究、探索、认识、揭示城市发展规律,从而遵循规律,把握规律,努力实现主观能动与客观规律的统一,着力解决城市中的发展难题,借鉴国际经验走出一条符合中国国情、具有中国特色的城镇化道路。城市文化问题,也是我们城市发展中的热点问题之一。所以今天,《文化纵横》杂志社与我们《城市发展研究》杂志社共同举办城镇文化研讨会,应该说是非常及时的。这么多的专家学者来共同讨论,我相信今天这个会一定会有声有色,预祝会议圆满成功。

杨平:我代表我们杂志社做一个致辞。我们文化纵横杂志是在快速增长的经济的时代,致力于中华民族的精神和价值的建设。目前,城镇化作为新一轮的经济增长的动力,非常引人注目。但是以人为本的城镇化的核心内容是什么?我认为目前并没有形成比较深入的探讨。回过头来看一下我们当代城镇化的进程,明显感觉有一些问题,像去历史、去文化,传统遭到破坏,社区生活消失,有经济产业无生活,空气污染,交通拥挤。传统的共同体逐渐瓦解,新兴的共同体难以支撑,与此同时社会信任难以建立,青年人缺乏信仰的支撑,社会缺乏共同的伦理。实际上我们的城市文化的缺失是价值缺失的一个最典型的例子。所以关注城镇化,更要关注城市文化与城市社会的变迁和进步。什么是城市文化,说到底就是城市的价值,他体现的应该是一个城市的价值和精神。这样经济才能长期发展,社会才能够相安无事。就目前看,城市的发展和城市文化的形成,政府的规划能力非常重要,商业的创新能力产业化能力也是十分重要的。但是必须有社会力量的加入,没有自下而上的社会参与的城市不是一个完成的构造,文化就缺乏创造力,城市文化城市精神不可能仅由行政命令规定。这种城市的精神也不能仅由商业表达,它必须有广泛的社会的参与。回过头来看,仅仅30年,中国迅速由一个农业社会演进为一个工业社会,但是一个成熟的工业社会的形态和文化形态并未确立,中国人正在寻找工业化时代适合自身生存的文化形态和价值形态,这种矛盾深刻地反应了我们所居住的城市的问题。与此同时,新文化革命悄然起来,信息化和全球化成为我们生活的一部分,工业文明要求与之适应的城市文化更是中国人不熟悉的。这是我们今天邀请大家来研讨的目的,希望为城镇化事业尽一份力。

任致远:我对城市问题写了三本书,第一本从历史的观点看,第二本解释城市与城市科学,第三本感悟城市与城市文化。我就以这个说说关于城市的很多意义和应用,讲这个我想从四个方面说一下。

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杨平:侠客棋牌任致远会长从城市文化的本体论层面谈了城市文化的本质意义,下面请中国建设报总编辑冯利芳发言。

冯利芳:今天是任震英的百年寿辰,为了纪念他我跟任致远会长都写了文章。他是一个传奇人物,从解放的时候受彭大将军的要求修大桥,从文革两次被开除党籍,到周总理关怀从牛棚出来。然后从参加第一个城市规划,到参与全国30多个城市的咨询审定,以前很多关键问题都是在他的坚持下做出来的。比如深圳机场,当年有人就是说太远要放近一点,要放深圳大学那边,国务院的领导同意了,就是他们几个老专家坚持。他从关注城市到关注窑洞,受到农民的支持。他的一生可歌可泣,他的学术规划和学术思想是最大财富,载入了中国城市文化史。1980年1月,他在国际马尼拉会议上作为中国代表团团长发言,他在会上第一次了提出中国城市化问题。他的核心思想是,城市要发展核心不能丢,具体的这一些传统中华民族文化特色,5000年文明史怎么把城市搞的有特色。他说,我们在城市发展过程中可以学学国外的优势,但是不能盲目。

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杨平:感谢冯利芳老师,做了非常丰富的准备。下面请李文堂做评论。

李文堂:任会长从哲人的高度对城市文化进行提炼和总结,充满了历史感。冯老师从一些比较具体的案例阐释城市文化的核心和特色。这一点从我们为什么保护历史文化遗产这个角度来说。冯老师提到文化是城市的产物,城市文化应在今天的中国城市建设占有重要地位。文化不仅仅是一种精神层面的符号化的表达。过去,我们的文化建设停留在符号化的表达层面上,过去,我们党把城市简单地看成物质生产的场所,这是我们文化认识不足的地方。我们知道,文化实际上受气候和地理环境的影响,这些东西是构成文化独特性的基础。城市作为一种场所,它不仅有空间性又有时间性,这个时间性是人的时间,人生活在历史性的存在当中。从这个角度来说,城市这个场所是有人的活动的价值的。因为这个空间是一个意义空间。它的价值能上升到杨总讲的人的存在方式。历史性是有阶段性的,所以地方性和独特性会在以机器文明为代表的理性主义的整个城市化过程当中,产生出一种抽象的理性化。所以在这一点上我们过去没有认识到,整个现代化问题的存在,是城市文化建设过去没有纳入历史文化遗产这个角度,是因为我们对现代化的理解有问题。实际上我们对马克思主义的理解也有问题,马克思主义对校正启蒙的理性主义,以及和我们今天说的现实主义的城镇化是有警觉的。现代的城市化是一种资产增长机器来定义,忽视了马克思主义的观念。

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杨平:侠客棋牌我们展开第二个单元,讨论城市文化与社会变迁的关系。下面由北京大学张静教授发言。

张静:非常感谢,也非常高兴在这跟大家讨论我们共同关心的问题。《文化纵横》提出来关于城市建设的文化主题是非常契合当代的,因为这个问题在过去很少讨论。过去主要是从经济方面设计城市化,而对城市化在经济之外的问题很少讨论。我讲的主要内容是城市的变迁,对于中国当今而言,有哪些重要的变化,这些重要变化有哪些含义。

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杨平:侠客棋牌感谢张静教授,下面请贝淡宁教授发言。

贝淡宁:大家好,首先要感谢《文化纵横》杂志与《城市发展研究》杂志给我机会跟大家讨论城市身份认同这个问题。我1999年写了一本关于城市精神的书,比较了东方与西方文化。有很多人提出来,美国那么大,中国那么大,各自内部也有不同的文化,有没有共同价值观,能不能拿来作比。我们发现这个话题很有趣。

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杨平:谢谢贝淡宁老师,下面请任锋先生发言。

任锋:侠客棋牌谢谢给我这样一个机会,我本身是做政治文化、政治理论研究的,但是我参加关于城市文化的论坛已经第二次了,一次是去年在我老家山西,所以说我觉得现代城市文化随着城市化的发展,越来越挑动各方的神经。

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杨平:侠客棋牌谢谢,下面进入到讨论的阶段。

金元浦:我们看到了整体,不光是张静老还有贝教授都谈到一个问题,我们现在的政府自上而下是无限责任政府,到今天,我们在改革开放初期已经实行过一次单位所有制的破除,但是现在我们看到呢,单位所有制的破除只是以农民工进城,出现的流动人口迫使我们单位所有制在一定程度上有所突破。我们现在呢,我感觉我们公民社会即将没了,本来还想建设一个自组织的社会,现在光剩了老头老太太锻炼群体还有自组织形式。现在这个自组织形式也已经被纳入到了我们的街道办事处,所以我们要考虑的是一个社会政府的责任无限重大。所以遇到问题时候,我这次四川地震大家是我冷我饿,但是很多人说这是天灾怎么能这样表达自己的愤怒。这样一个问题也产生了这样,因为政府是万能,政府的承诺是万能,政府的责任是无边的,但是政府肯定做不了这么多的事,在那里的人有没有自组织起来做一些事。现在全都是政府的事。

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白龙:感谢《文化纵横》杨总提供一个学习的机会。我今天来主要是学习的,刚才听了张静老师、贝老师和任锋的发言有一些感觉。任锋说我们稍稍的把眼光放得深一点远一点,可能对我们借鉴更多。不否认历史上的经验,当然会对我们有一些借鉴,但是借鉴的作用多大还是值得商榷的。刚才贝教授谈到爱城主义还有很多地方的经验的时候,有着很难能可贵的国际化视角。我有一个很直观的感受,不管是我们今天在北京的建筑,纽约的建筑,或者是东京的建筑,看到的是很类似的很差不多的,包括一些很相似的专卖店,其实在城镇化之后这些东西都差不多了,我们现在谈更像是在谈这个城市的胎记。这个胎记是需要你剥掉外在的那些西装和装饰之后看到的东西。

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杨平:上午的会,我是认为才算是开了头,基本上涉及到了观察城市文化和相关进程历史的视角。我认为,我们开始讨论城市文化的时候,更多是从1980年代的改革开放以来这样的历史阶段,尤其是工业化、市场化、城镇化的因素进入以后,来认识城市化的。今天上午的会最重要的启发就是我们认识当代城镇化的进程,还要把视角放的更远一些,放到1949年以来,放到中国共产党进城之后出现的问题。当代城市文化和城镇化中间面临的挑战,更多是现代性的挑战。这个是我们今天上午我认为非常非常重要的收获。同时从城市社会学的角度,张静教授包括被贝淡明教授,谈了城市精神,谈了今天的城市社会结构的变迁,这种社会结构的变迁对城市管理,城市治理带来了与我们1949年以来到1980年之前整个社会完全不同的挑战,这个我认为涉及到非常重要问题。下午希望我们城市文化这样的话题从这些方面深入下去。比如说我们城市管理中间涉及到的体制问题。体制问题在今天城镇化进程中间非常突出的,他的行政化格局的设计,对城镇化自身的发展,乃至城市社会中间的关系是有非常大的影响的。进而我们希望能够探讨,生态文明和城镇化的关系,当然这里面很多老师下午也准备了关于古迹保护、旧城保护,然后文化产业发展,与城市文化建设的有关议题,下午会准时展开,希望这个会能够有更多的收获。上午会议到此结束。谢谢各位。

下午会场

任致远:侠客棋牌咱们早点开始,上午跟城市文化的认同,社会体验,各个方向发表了看法,看下午的名单里面,是由这些老师来发表看法:李迅、李凤禹、韩林飞、阙卫民、金元浦、丁超、夏劲松、刘学德这些安排上要讲讲。实际上下午城市文化的话题还需要进一步的拓展,下边我们说第一个议题关于城市文化建设的,主讲人中国城市科学研究会秘书长,也是我们杂志的主编李迅给大家讲。

李迅:大家下午好,非常高兴今天能参加我们这个沙龙,题目跟杨主编商量,“城镇化进程当中的城市文化现象”。我稍微补充一下城镇化的情况,城镇化是一个历史潮流,城镇化跟城市化是同义的概念。从历史看经过了四波浪潮,第一波是19世纪初,第二波是19世纪后半叶,第三波二战之后为拉美东亚为代表,现在是第四波以印度和中国为代表。我觉得有两点给我们启示,一个我们的资源环境,另外一个物质主义,我们认为用两件武器可以战胜一切,一个就是科学技术,一个是用金融资本。关于生态文明提出的时候,很重要用了生态学的一个基本原理。强调生物多样性,就是一个物种的发展不能侵害别的物种。第二个强调所谓的发展都是可以实现循环再生的。所以我想,建设生态文明构筑美丽中国实现城市的有序发展,这个是中国在建筑自己中国梦当中必须提出来的一件大事。

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任致远:下面是不是请我们李凤禹总经理来讲城市文化的场所塑造。

李凤禹:谢谢,上午各位领导对城市文化在未来城市化发展中的使命责任,包括从社会学和历史学的角度怎么看,做了精彩的分析,刚才李迅会长对城市文化的反思也非常深刻。我其实跟大家有点不太一样,我是做具体的规划项目,做具体的项目工作,今天我做的报告供大家批评指正。我的题目是,目前我们要营造城市文化氛围,在新型的城镇化过程中,要从文化的拼贴变成场所的塑造。我有五点收获,用三个项目讲,第一个收获,塑造一个建筑是很容易的但是塑造一个场所非常难,场所是精神空间,二是所有人要认可它是多元文化的智慧结晶,所以要经得起时间的考验,经得起不同的文化背景、不同社会阶层的人认同,非常非常困难。中国快速出现了大批的城市,但是实际上,我们更多的城市是没有场所的,是居住类的工业产品。另外,我们的文化,都在大拆大建之中丧失了。所以,很大程度上我们城市的空间和场所,变成单一意义,其发展模式非常僵硬,缺乏文化的注入,缺乏对城市个性和特色的认知,城市化需要多元的智慧,任何单一的设计是很难取得成功的。

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任致远:下面请韩林飞老师做点评。

韩林飞:侠客棋牌非常感谢邀请我来参加这个会,老师的发言我不敢说评论,我想谈谈个人看法,把我们中国面临的文化难题和我们发展当中出现的问题、面临的一些挑战进行一些阐述,我个人认为,这是我们在城市化过程当中,必须自我反省的事情,我非常佩服李老师自我反省的精神。针对李老师说的城市四问,包括交通、建筑、千城一面、重点保护这四个问题。因为我们中国地域辽阔,气侯和地理的条件,各个地区不一样,所以如果我们按照统一的模式建设我们城市,这是有问题的。另外,我们文化有很深的地域积淀。在现代化的发展过程当中,希望把这些地域条件变成我们发展的动力,而不是随便的抛弃。现在很多城市化发展当中,就发现很多地方将传统的文化延续看做阻力,希望把他们全部变成高楼大厦,所谓的千城一面,就是我们现在城镇化的标志,这一点是非常错误的。

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任致远:侠客棋牌现在邀请阙维民,北京大学世界遗产中心副主任。

阙维民:我想讲我们的城镇遗产保护问题。城镇遗产保护是城市文化延续的基础。我讲城镇遗产的空间,是城市文化形成发展演变的场所,我们在讨论城市的时候,不要忘了城市单体建筑的问题。我相强调中国的建筑一点不逊于西方,除了木结构建筑,中国的石构建筑也是非常精采的。城镇遗产是城市的载体,否则,城市文化就是虚无缥渺的,只能存在于书本。城镇遗产保护是城市文化的延续基础,感受城市文化价值要有物质体现。一定要从历史的过去来探讨。如果没有人的活动,怎么去感受城市的文化?

任致远:侠客棋牌遗产的保护实际上就是一种文化,遗产的保护不是静止的也不是落后的,其实遗产的保护很重要,我觉得遗产保护也是一种发展,这个也是我们应该进一步认识的,下面请金元浦主任讲创意城市。

金元浦:我今天讲的题目,是说城市是一件美丽的艺术品。以前我们要解决城市的基本建设问题,现在这些问题都在逐步的解决之中,未来如何把一个城市当做一个艺术品,要像艺术品一样地打造城市,现在的城市化面临着一个城市美学的或者叫审美的城市化这样一个历史性课题,而不能只考虑功能性的问题,进入更高的一个发展阶段。如果保持目前的发展速度,中国城市人口将增长到9.255亿,增长数量比美国全部人口都要多,这是一个我们值得非常关注的问题。

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任致远:侠客棋牌内容很丰富,对我国的城市和城市文化进行了一些观察,品评和希冀。下面请王旭教授进行一下评议。

王旭:首先感谢《文化纵横》杂志社给我提供这个机会来学习,今天很多老师谈到了城市文化的发展和传承这个问题,也谈到了现代化包括城镇化问题,我想,如果把这个问题放到我们历史的视角,可能对我们有更多的启发。现在关于城市发展的问题,为什么理论上大家说的都很好,但是一涉及到具体现实,就完全变样了?因此,我们也要考虑政治、经济特别是资本运作的问题。要考虑现代资本主义工业化模式,以及世界体系国际竞争这样的格局。近代中国在1840年面对西方冲击的时候,他在西方的冲击下是一败涂地的,没有办法进行内在的有效整合,传统局面完全被打破了。所以,整个近代中国,很大的一个课题就是在不断消解自己的文化传统,习得西方的现代化,应对西方的冲击,所以在很大程度上,我们建构的这个现代社会,我们所建构的现代文化,包括今天处理城市发展,运用的一套现代文化体制都是一种嫁接的文化体制,不像西方自身,西方历史文化遗产和它的传统保护是延续性的,它是传统至上,中国则不同,中国的现代化是一个嫁接的产物,他是把自己的传统作为一个简单化和妖魔化的对象。

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任致远:侠客棋牌下午第二个议题到这里结束。

杨平:我建议可以做些讨论,我先说几句,我听了今天下午的发言非常受启发,一个是从企业的角度看,对于一个小城镇的设计,既要充满美学想象,也要通过资本化的设计过程完成。今天比较遗憾的就是,没有人谈他们怎么设计城市的文化,金元浦老师是讲了诗意城市,他带着艺术的想象,从台湾的生活美学运动,讲到历史传统的层面,也没有具体涉及这一问题。

我去澳门,看到赌场资本对城市的塑造,以金钱和欲望设计城市的场所,而在台湾台南市,一条烂尾街的重塑则由一些现代行为主义艺术家进行。我非常困惑,这样两种力量,两种对城市的塑造,其关系究竟应该怎样看待,这是我想提的一个问题。谢谢。

刘学德:我想提出三个问题。

DIYIGESHI,WENHUAHEWENHUADEGONGJU,HUOZHEJIAOZAITI,LIANGZHESHIBUSHIYINGGAIYOUGESHIDUDEQUFEN。

ZAIYOUYIGEWENTIJIUSHILISHIDEJIEJIANZUOYONG。BIRUNIQUKANSHOUDOUBOWUGUAN,TAYOUYIGELISHIDEZHANGLANG,YIMIANQIANGSHIJIANGBEIJINGDELISHI,LINGWAIYIMIANQIANGZESHIJIANGDANGSHISHIJIESHANGFASHENGLESHENME。ZHEIYANGJIUYOULEYIGESHIJIELISHIDEYANGUANG。SHIFANGZAISHIJIEFANWEINEIQUSIKAO。

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杨平:我给贝淡宁老师提个问题,这也是党校李文堂教授的问题。你说爱国精神、爱城精神,爱城精神似乎在文化的意义上更重要一些。但问题是,欧洲的城市在其历史传统上是一种自治城市,有城邦国家的历史,有自治城市的历史。而中国的城市一直都是服从于军事政治乃至经济的安排。两种传统是不一样的,所以在中国的传统中,关于爱城似乎没有历史的文脉。你是否注意到东西方的这些基本差异。

金元浦:第一个问题关于文化的概念。在整个的西方语言中间,关于文化的直接解释260多种。可见文化是一个非常大的概念,在文化中间还要解决文化与文明的关系问题。从另一个角度看,我们可以说文化是人的生存的方式,或者叫存在的方式。比如说文化研究的巨擘英国人威廉斯就说文化是一种生存的观念。这个观念可以非常抽象,人更高层面上对世界的认识,以及他精神领域里对世界意义的发掘,都可以归于文化。这其实也是人之区别于动物的本质特征。生存的意义和后来文化的意义,是在人类活动的历史中形成的,是人类赋加上去的。

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刘学德:侠客棋牌是不是可以说就是,五年在50年当中不算什么,50年在500年当中也不算什么,是这个概念吗?

金元浦:当然不是。5000年、5万年已经超出我们现在考虑人类创造的文明的历史阶段。我们可能要考虑2000年。比方说兵马俑作为历史的遗迹保留下来。

贝淡宁:侠客棋牌感谢这个问题。我就讲关于欧洲的一些城市尤其是意大利。意大利有一个词(地方主义),这个词很贬义,他们觉得是很狭隘的东西。为什么有这样的概念?我觉得跟他们的历史和历史意识有关系。意大利在历史上大部分时间都是独立的分裂的,意大利国家只有150年的历史。这当然跟中国的历史完全不一样。

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刘学德:侠客棋牌新加坡是作为一个城市在运行,还是作为一个国家运行?

贝淡宁:新加坡是个例外。它是个城市国家。

张静:侠客棋牌我想补充两点。确实,归属感和认同是非常根本性的问题。最近看到古德诺的回忆录。他当初到中国来,先做了一些功课。他看到一些材料,就是八国联军到天津港口以后,担心招不到当地人帮忙运送辎重,因为中国人知道他是去攻打京城,怎么可能来帮忙,后来情况是愿意帮忙的中国人非常多。古德诺问道,为什么这些人没有民族主义的障碍阻止自己这么做,这些中国人对皇帝是认同的吗?他分明知道他是一个中国人,但是似乎皇帝受到攻击和自己毫无关系。所以我想说的是,认同的建立其实是和体制有关。这个体制就是人民和这个体制的关系。只有当公共利益和个人利益关联时,才能建立起来这种认同。我觉得这一点特别重要。

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阙卫民:侠客棋牌我想对金元浦老师提几个问题。金老师年龄比我大,您刚才讲到的文化创意,我知道您做过很多个文化创意,你讲到现在的进程会决定今后300年到500年年中国的格局。问题是你怎么知道300年后的事情?在座的恐怕没有人活到那个年代。

任致远:下面请丁超教授来讲。

丁超:侠客棋牌我想讲的是历史地理学能在城市中有什么作用。实际上这可以上升到一个很高的问题,就是历史有什么作用。如果说我们现在面临着城市问题跟历史无关,跟历史地理学无关,那么这个问题是谁形成的呢?这恐怕就要算在所谓的工业化,所谓建筑上了。我相信那些比较热门的城市学科,即便不是元凶也是帮凶。

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李迅:侠客棋牌大家下午好,非常高兴今天能参加我们这个论坛。我原定的题目是城市文化与生态文明。这里稍微补充一下城镇化的情况。城镇化是一个历史潮流,是一个现代化的规律。从历史看,城镇化经过了四波浪潮。第一波是19世纪初,第二波是19世纪后半叶,第三波是二战之后以为亚非拉为代表,现在是第四波,以印度和中国这样的新兴国家为代表。这个历史过程中间,我觉得有两点启示。一个是我们的资源环境,另外一个是物质主义。我们一度认为用两件武器可以战胜一切,一个就是科学技术,一个是用金融资本。资本具有这种逐利性质。

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任致远:侠客棋牌下面请我们李凤禹总经理发言,题目是城市文化的场所塑造。

李凤禹:城市的基本功能是产业积聚,也带来了人口流动,成为磁力中心。这么多人涌入北京,因为北京工作的机会多,比在家乡的工资高。我们的调研中也发现,很多情况下人们可以牺牲作为一个城市公民的基本尊严,来获得这样一个经济效应。例如,在一套居室里可以住进15个人,甚至连厨房和卫生间都住进人。人们为了在北京有一席之地,可以放弃基本的市民尊严。人口为什么会出现这种畸形的流动?根本原因还是过多的资源集中在少数大城市。户口就是一种调节资源分配的方式。它的背后是不平等。

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李迅:今天的论坛聚焦城市文化问题,做了一次非常好的头脑风暴。

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杨平:侠客棋牌最后谈点感想。首先感谢各位今天来参加这个会,也感谢李迅秘书长。老实说,今天这个会是我十几年开会最没有把握的一次。因为这个领域问题跨度太大,涉及的面太广,但是开到后来,焦点开始清晰起来了。至少我感觉最初我们提出的问题开始往地上落。

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任致远:会议圆满成功,谢谢大家。

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